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Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 00:03:00 - [1] Today the Free Captains of Jericho Fraction celebrate eight years of victory. I speak these words with assurance and confidence because the victory we share is a triumph over every regressive hand and mediocre ambition that thought to turn us from the path of Free Space liberation and bring us back to the loamy-bedrock of nationalist hierarchy and closed-border xenophobia during the years of our revolution. A revolution begins and ends in the hearts and minds of living people. It is a dream and ideal forged bright and burning in the passions of the strong. It transcends starships and weaponry, it spreads like wildfire in the anarchic beauty of love and vision, it raises spirits and opens minds and cannot be extinguished by the corrupt and the banal. Our revolution springs from the simplest of notions: that the individual is sovereign and independent and is free to make decisions beyond the limitations of imposed hierarchy and theocratic violence. We believe that the technology of the capsule has freed mankind from servitude to base concepts of servile indenture and we capsuleers have a responsibility not to shrink from these notions of liberation, but to share and enflame these ideals by every word and deed. Free trade, fair commerce, voluntary association and collaboration with like-minded partners, self-defence, sovereign-individuality and freedom of thought and decision; these are our ideals and we have kept them throughout the long years of Diaspora in the face of any who would spit and hurl invective and venom in defence of sacred nationalism and nihilistic corruption. Our revolution is your revolution. It is not enough that we defend our freedom and prosperity; we invite you to assert yourselves and become our partners in free trade and exploration across these open stars. This is why we have never strayed from the path of NRDS engagement, never fallen for the sickly wiles of xenophobic NBSI, we truly believe that capsuleers are able to interact with honour and integrity unleashed from the commands of state and statist tyrant alike. We see the tapestry of stars besmirched by nation states and their illegitimate children in nullsec gangster cliques; we watch the road-blockers and reactionary brutes strutting in their tribal feathers and painting themselves with gaudy tribute as they boast of those they kill for no purpose than salving existential angst and stellar void within their crippled hearts. We listen to a thousand justifications and excuses and we see posthumanity chained by brigands and cultists forged as weapons for the ego of a few and we shake our heads with sad-eyes and resolve never to surrender to the sink of depravity and pit of wasted dreams. Jericho Fraction began this fight eight years ago when we raised a clamour against the now-mythical Masters of Ownage (m0o Corp) in Lonetrek and went on to influence and reform the piratical Venal Alliance, where we came into conflict with corporate corruption of Taggart Transdimensional and their CEO Ragnar in a sequence of power-plays and manipulations that would conclude in the Great Northern War (New EdenÆs first clash of capsuleer superpowers on an epic scale). But we have ever fought the big-battalions of nationalist folly with makeshift weaponry and volunteer passion: from our earliest skirmishes in cruise-missile frigates against Forsaken Empire battleships, to the heroics of the GNW interceptor wolf-packs against the Phoenix Alliance security treaty, from cloaked cunning in occupied Providence in support of the Matari people, to our outgunned (but never outmanoeuvred) signature cruisers in Black Rise to Bleaklands cumulating in the great battles of Space and Freedom in Kamela. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 00:04:00 - [2] We have always understood that winning battles is as much to do with imagery and imagination as it is of raw numbers and cynical cowardice, the idea of a victory is the reward of a fight well done, and the symbolism of ten heroic cruisers confronting the most powerful force in New Eden while every eye in the cluster watched in straight disbelief is a currency without equal, immortal and enduring to this very day. The Free Captain of Jericho Fraction is no nationalist soldier briefed and unquestioning of orders. No brigand-thief motivated by preying only on the weak. No kill-junkie submissively accepting the mockery of his superiors for the self-hating pride at serving a greater killer. No militiaman seeking meaningless praise and medals in the hierarchy, and no mere mind-blank pawn to a pirate-kings self-stroking egotism in the lonely darkness. The Free Captains are masters of their own fate; capable amateurs volunteering to place themselves in harmÆs way to assert and defend the principles we share. No respect for nationalist bullying. No retreat from senseless violence. No surrender to shoddy compromise or shifting of ideals on the principle articles on our shared vision for a capsuleer future in New Eden. We believe the capsule can free mankind from servitude to state and empire. We believe the gift of immortality in our hands can be shared far beyond the restrictions of our space-born brethren. We believe the capsuleer is more than a weapon to be aimed by statist policy or pirate folly and must assert independence in all things, to rise on wings of ambition to embrace the chance we have been given to bring genuine change and a better future for all our comrades and kinsmen to come. Eight years we have striven to prove our ideals and demonstrate by actions the truth of our words. While for eight years our enemies have tried to silence us, to destroy us, to banish by all means necessary the hope and idealism of our vision. Empires have assaulted our holdings, Alliances have formed with the sole goal of destroying our name, Militias have put aside their hostilities to express their hatred of the freedom we dare to speak, but none of these have known the slightest success or satisfaction while the Free Captains stand proud and ply their trade by principles of sovereign independence and open-handed acknowledgement of neutrality and coexistence in New Eden. To our friends and trade partners we give our thanks and respect. To foes dead and gone we give our memories and quiet satisfaction. To those we encounter in space we declare as we always have: that neutrality will be respected and Free Transit across the stars be acknowledged the true shared wealth of our post-human existence. And perhaps it is fitting that on our eighth anniversary we turn to fight again the most corrupt of our foes; those who fell from our friendship and abandoned the principles of Freedom to make of themselves a parasitical blight on the frontier we taught them once to love. Jericho Fraction has been targeted for destruction and annihilation by the twin alliances Rote Kapelle and Veto who in defence of their puppet nationalist representative Moira Corporation, have forged a bold (if somewhat baffling) combination of Gurista/Sansha loyalist/Anti Sansha Federal Extremist agenda united (if their words to be believed) only in hatred for the Free Captains and febrile boasted intentions to drive the Fraction from Placid and burn our holdings and staging towers to the ground! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 00:05:00 - [3] What better way to celebrate our eighth anniversary than another victory against the forces of regressive imperialism and nullsec mediocrity? What clearer demonstration of our triumph than in facing-down the collective might of this shoddy pack of quivering jackals to deny their ambitions with verve and guerrilla cunning? We welcome the formal wardec from Rote Kapelle alliance and raise it as a symbol of victory that after all these years we can still rile the crass egotism of nullsec monsters and bait the regressive beasts from their depths to dash themselves to splintering ruin in the starlight of our idealism! Let us see whether the Rote Kapelle wardec outlives Moira Corporation and if the will of VetoÆs Dreadnaught fleet will surpass our ability to raise staging towers and resist the oppressive stench of quisling aroma stealing from the Roach Motel in TXW-EI system. It is clear to us now that this unsightly coterie of clowns wishes to spread its miasmatic chife across free Placid to stifle all the glorious scents of liberation and freedom if they can. Will second hand ambition inherited from the fevered hatred of pitifully-obsessed minds prove sufficent to the task their drooling lips have set for themselves? We doubt it. So here on our anniversary in New Eden Jericho Fraction stands unbowed and unbound, and even opposed by five times our number of cowardly poltroons carping and gibbering their petty villainies in support of an ethically-bankrupt nationalist leader we simply laugh in the face of our foes and tell them an emphatic ôbring itö as weÆve done so many times before. We accept the terms of their aggression; we stand in their crosshairs as they aim at annihilation of our message and our ideals. Let this war last as long as it must to demonstrate the clash of wills implicit in the declaration. We shall be standing proud when the folly is passed and gone and all unwisely spoken boasts turned to dust in the stellar wind. There are limits to cod-nationalist piratico-nihilist ambition and we are about to turn that revelation into a symphony of woe to the egotistical delusions of the TXW roach motel management and staff. Long live the Fraction! Long live the Fighters! Long live those who Dare to Dream! And hereÆs to another eight years humiliating the pride of petty tyrants and their mindless drones. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 01:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Brannor McThife You hold no Sovereign space. You are not independent. Our sovereignty begins and ends at the hulls of our starships and has precisely nothing to do with your narrow definitions of concord registry little power slave. Quote: I am no slave to any man nor tyrant. I come for those that claim what is not theirs. You are a creature of bended knee and herd instinct addicted to a cult of mindless nihilism and institutional abuse. Speak to me of accomplishment when you have done more than kill for somebody else's delusions and ancient grudges. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Nemesor The Free Captains of the Star Fraction are quite the puzzle are they not? Claiming to be Transhumanist, attempting to at least have the appearance of taking the higher road. Using words like Justice, Mercy, Freedom, Legitimacy. The sovereign individual has recourse to such words when they have bearing on one's perception of reality. But really why is it such a puzzle? When a human (or posthuman) decides to seek collaborative interaction with other humans beyond the restrictions of state or empire and stand merely on personal reputation and consequence these things have meaning. You might pour scorn on the notion that "not shooting up all neutrals on sight" is somehow a "higher road" but I'd say to you it is a more progressive road. Knee-jerk aggression against all other life paints you into the role of a virus in comparison. Originally by: Nemesor Ask the Cosmopolite if he can use his laboratory to take samples from all around the Universe and break it down to its most fine and basic components. Then have him run his most sensitive and detailed scans on it and look over the results. I am certain that you will find no Justice particles. No iota of Mercy or Freedom contained in the dust and debris. We sovereign individuals make these concepts as we please. Power makes Freedom. You seem to have read my earlier writings on the nature of Freedom and reached your own conclusions that life is simply the Freedom to kill and nothing else. I refute this utterly since Freedom is the power to choose. (From "the true knowledge of the star fraction") ôThe True Knowledge of the Star Fraction is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. You are free to do whatever is in your power and if you want to increase your power you had better do whatever is in your interest. All that you really value, all the goodness and truth and beauty of life, all the poetry and artful words have their roots in this pragmatism. Now the authority worshiper asks me how does that make me more than a criminal? The nationalist states his superiority in serving another force greater than himself. The crusader speaks with false piety and blames a myth for his violence and hypocrisy and self-deceivers simply shudder at the words for their ... unbearable honesty. Morality is meaningless beyond self-interest and the freedom of choice. Piety is helpless in the face of immortality. There is no need for peace when we have the capacity for mutual self-destruction and the plenty of the limitless stars makes a mockery of frugal socialism and communist self-denial. Why then am I not a brigand killing all who I choose to? Because I choose not to be. Why do I not take goods and resources from those weaker than me? IÆd rather trade for them. Why do I consider myself ôbetterö than a pirate or gate-blocker alliance? Frankly I donÆt consider the comparison at all. Understand. All this is my choice. I seek power to better enable that choice. Power is a tool to be used not an idol to be worshiped. Ships are power, reputation is power, the potential to violence is power, the capacity to trade is power, the decision not to kill a neutral and spill their crew into the void û this too is power. Originally by: Nemesor In the spirit of the occasion, I will give you a small gift. It can be learned from observing any biosphere where two or more living things compete for room to grow or food to eat. The one with the will to kill is the one that will prevail Your self-identification with mindless predators aside. It must be stated that Freespacers lack for neither room nor food in the thousands of systems we've known since the capsuleer diaspora began. Your perception of this need is simply the triumph of the regressive meme infected on your consciousness by the ambitions of stronger men. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 11:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko You are fighting for an idea that is already yours to claim. You are already free of the shackles, you have only those restrictions that are placed on you by either reality or yourself. The former you cannot do anything about. The second you can - stop chaining yourself into the service of others through this altruistic struggle towards the utopian ideal of "free space". And this neatly reveals your own slip into solipsist nihilism Tatsue Nuko. You believe this is all about self revelation and internal evolution? You feel it is enough to become the greatest predator against the tapestry of stars? I do not. I believe the revolution is a song with a catchy beat, the secret is meeting the eyes of a stranger across a crowded room and beckoning with a smile. Its in sharing the dream we have, its in teaching others to rise up and fight and become more than mere pawns in another's game. There is no upotia of free space. It will always be dangerous because there will always be predators wallking in the skins of man who wish to steal and loot and take through violence. But irony (and it is a almost a bitter one) is that there is very little difference between the violence of state and hierarchy that takes the product of a man's labour with taxes and bureacracy paying only lipservice to primal fears of the unknown - and the violence of brigands and thieves like Rote Kapelle who take the product of labour with threat and bluster and elect themselves the tyrants of nullsec. You tell yourself you are the peak of human evolution Tatsue Nuko because you are simply a better thief than the tax-collectors of the state and empire, a better con-artist than the electors of the federation and republic even. But when all is said and done you are simply following in the path of tyrants gone before. What you are building in the roach motel is an empire of violence that will coalesce in time to the traditional shapes of dominance and submission and personality cult obedience to those most vile. Already you surrender your pride and self-worth to the mockery of your peers because that is the price of living in the herd. So goes civilization and the age-old memetics of post colonial new eden. Quote: In the end it's all your choice of course, but I should say that I find your altruistic dedication to the cause as deplorable and wasteful as the loyalists who chain themselves to the obsolescent states and empires of a gone era. You could be so much more! You could be free already. Ah silly girl. We are free the moment we break away from the detritus of empires and theology of the mob. We'd like you to be free. But somehow we have to teach you to under the language we are speaking before the discussion can be had. You are an unruly child half-maddened by Quafe buzz quite convinced that murdering other sentients is the highest expression of freedom possible in this universe. I have to tell you such is a terrible lie and you have been misinformed by those with the motive to use you to their own ends. Freedom comes from chosing not to take a life. Freedom is choice. Freedom simply is. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 12:46:00 - [7] There are other ways of responding without a quote fest Tatsue Nuko. Allow me to demonstrate. You speak of being the "best you can be." So I ask ôbest at what?ö In rote kapelle it appears the only ôbestö you seek is killing and killboard trolling? You mock the ôdreamy idealö of a revolution yet replace it with nothing but pure solipsist nihilism / or worse yet, a replication of statist authority-worship and theft. On the nature of voluntary association we have covered this ground already many times before in past discussions. When you disassociate from Rote Kapelle you become a target û and must perforce vacate their claimed space on threat of violence. Hence the ôvoluntaryö nature of association comes into question. You remain because you fear to depart. On cults and personalities (your attempted sarcasm aside) the reality is you are following the vision of other (stronger, more obsessive, more driven) men whose agenda (killing at all costs) comes to replace any notion of your own personality. I remember a Tatsue Nuko who once believed that statist demand for taxes and tithes degraded the individual, now you count such things a point of pride. One could almost rest the case there. But then you speak of dissent û dissent from what? You stand for one cause and one cause alone û killing and gloating over kills. It is the whole of your nature. You worship at the cult of the killboard Tatsue Nuko û there is no reason or politics or ideal beyond the holy statistics of the K/D ratio. There is no ideal nor principle nor freedom nor dream at the core of your being simply a yawning emptiness that aches to be filled by the hatred of others. Why else are you drawn so regularly like a lonely moth to the flame of Fraction idealism to spit your bitter little imprecations and shout ônotice ME!ö whenever we speak? You come because you have nothing else. One might almost term it a tragedy. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 14:51:00 - [8] And so the dance continues Tatsue Nuko, as it has for the last two years with the majority of your public writing relating to the objects of your need and close obsession. It is very easy of course to claim your motivation one of ôamusementö (it is after all the common recourse of the ôtrollö to speak of ôtrollingö as the one and only purpose of the interjection). But I think we know better you and I, it is difficult for you to walk away because what would that leave of you? Moreover, your statements of personality cults and your apparent discomfort at association with the primary goals of your current organization reveal much. I asked you what you two questions previously: ôthe best at what?ö ôDissent from what?ö And the best you return is simply to state your difference from the majority of Rote KapelleÆs killboard-worshiping self-humiliating cultists and I say to you now Tatsue that is not a virtue. You share an organization with some of the clustersÆ most profound mediocrities; creatures of scarcely measurable sentience that caper and caress their mandibles to the cult of the K/D and you would have me believe you are somehow different? How? What have you done to make you different? What have you achieved except the erosion of your standards and self-murder of principles once argued with some passion and flair? I condemn you over your knuckle-dragging fellow drones Tatsue Nuko because unlike them you wilfully selected the course of intellectual self-harm and idealistic lobotomy to render yourself inured to the sinkhole of depravity you now inhabit. And now you tell me I make a mistake in condemning the whole of a NBSI kill-hungry nihilistic brigand alliance because there might be scraps of individuality in the discarded bins? Show them to me by all means because there is no evidence of such in the last 2 years of your own public statements which in the main are a simple prequel to the rehashed and largely incoherent primal demand for notice you make here. Speak of civility as if it is a right? Why do you expect mercy from a revolutionary confronting an embodiment of hierarchical submission to regressive meme? At this point Tatsue I do not consider you fully alive let alone a capsuleer demanding of respect. You are simply an echo chamber repeating the same puerile childish follies mistaking idiot-violence for liberation and intellectual dishonesty for meaningful debate. Civility is for the civil as respect is for the respectful. Tell me why your casual acceptance of random murder and regressive territorialism is worthy of civility or respect? Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 15:28:00 - [9] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 01/06/2011 15:29:37 Originally by: Nemesor Funny, when I look at you or any other Fractionite, I see prey. I imagine a slaverhound has much the same thought-process and depth to its intellectual development. (and probably similar capability to achieve its boasts in space) Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 15:33:00 - [10] You ask a fair question monsieur Galente and I am happy to answer it directly. There is a practical answer and an ideological answer. First the practical: The Star Fraction fights to assert our right to conduct free transit and commercial activity in New Eden where and when we chose. And by practising NRDS engagement ideology we choose not to inhibit the rights of other neutral parties to do the same. We wish to encourage and trade and commerce and since our enemies are generally those who stand opposed to such things, we can quite evidently claim to be standing in the subjective ôrightö in the perceptions of those who wish to see development and commercial success in low-security and nullsec space. To illustrate simply: We have recently moved the focus of our operations to Placid Region where the Fraction has established an HQ and various staging towers. Our intention here is to build profitable relationships with neutrals and friends while finding opportunity to engage and confront those organizations who choose to bring hostility and violence against our shipping. We began our journey in this Star Cluster as traders in rare commodities travelling to dangerous places, it is a part of our history we have never lost. There needs to be a purpose to fighting û and engaging the enemies of freespace, free-commerce and free-movement in New Eden is a cause of flair and clarity. And the ideological: We believe that freedom cannot be imposed from above. We are anarchists, individualists, non-conformist anti-state radicals and revolutionaries. We believe that capsuleers can show the way to free mankind of the shackles of hierarchy and state-violence and demonstrate the virtues of free-association and voluntary collaboration to profitable ends. By demonstrating our ability to exist and flourish in the dangerous environment of Placid we set an example that others may choose to follow. There is no need to live in fear of pirates and ravagers and brigands, one has only to learn to stand and fight back û coexist and trade with honest pilots, evade, trap or confront the dishonest. Our revolution is a fight that is won in a million tiny skirmishes and our example reflected in a new pilot deciding to stand and fight back rather than submit to monolithic hierarchy or slip to random violence means more than a thousand ship kills and vapid boasts. And as to the difference between our freedom and Tatsuo NukoÆs freedom? On one level these is little. One is free to act as they chose. But one is never free from consequence. We believe in demonstrating our Freedom to choose whether we kill or not, to choose to trade and respect diplomacy and arrangements, to conduct business and profitable exchange is as powerful as Tatsuo NukoÆs choice to consider herself a simple predator and all other life her prey. The consequence of our choice to respect neutrality in the interest of business and progressive commercial interaction is hostility and vendettas from the likes of Rote Kapelle and Veto. The consequence of her choice to murder everyone she meets in demonstration of her freedom is that we consider her a disappointment and betrayer of the potential of capsuleer immortality who is simply regressing to the role of tyrant she once opposed. -cont. Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 15:34:00 - [11] What is Freedom? û The freedom to make a choice. What is Liberation? û Enabling or encouraging another to make a choice. Freedom from what? û Bad ideas in the main. Freedom from regressive thinking and the status quo that teaches us we are simply weapons to be used for the governments of the cluster to fight their wars and imprison their people. Freedom for what? û Freedom to make friends, freedom to make money, freedom to build and grow, freedom to explore and discover, freedom to break the bonds of our imposed reality and reach towards a better future where humanity transcends this political stasis and launches world-ships to the stars of Pleides where our children will dance and make us smile anew. And the ôwhyö monsieur? û well smiles because we can. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 15:57:00 - [12] The point you conveniently skip over Tatsue is that I was suggesting there is nothing else for you to talk about, that is why youÆve made perhaps a dozen posts in two years and the grand majority of those are about us. I challenged you to tell me what else you stand for? What you are doing? How exactly you differ from the idiot rank and file of your associations (that you assured us you do not identify yourself with). Now of course you can claim your post count is not exactly impression in the Andreus Ixirus school of forum stalking û but he does at least prove himself an equal-opportunity shotgun frother and rarely limits his range to a single subject. You on the other hand talk about nothing else! So weÆll close the dance with the ôIÆm less bothered than youö minuet (as usual until the next time). As for insanity and the virtues of speaking to the ôclearly teapotö IÆm quite content to measure my grasp of reality and intention to conduct fair and equitable business relationships with neutral standing pilots in New Eden against your furious nihilism and blood-thirsty desire to ôburn the worldö. It is said that a psychopath rarely takes responsibility for the actions conducted û you prove that point quite admirably Tatsue. By all means keep murdering neutrals and telling yourself the screams of the dying are paeans to your sanity while the hulls tumble and burn in the void. Such sanity you can keep. I prefer honesty any day of the week. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 16:11:00 - [13] Originally by: Revan Neferis Nemesor... ah that's a name that brings me good memories. Perhaps you had a slaverhound by that name love? Originally by: Revan Neferis Anyways, to the thread: Although the Universe is very aware that I'm no lover of these "We will force you to be free" anarchist mind set, I'll raise a toast to your celebration because of the unpredictable consequences that chaos theory permitted it to be shaped. If it wasn't by such Ideals, many years ago a certain Gallente wouldn't have requested an audience with me and as consequence something would be less brighter to the future. So a toast to the ideals which has made a Gallente woman so blind and crazy to the point of thinking she could enter the ship of an Amarrian Sani Sabik Sovereign to sell politics many years ago. The idea itself was so daring and absurd that the Universe decided to make a twist of it on its own way. You came to sell politics and failed. But you left my ship with something far more precious which would shape the destiny of many including yours. Many people make a mistake of reading such in your opening quote. There is no forcing people to be free - such a thing is lunacy and is only raised as a straw-man target to be dismantled at the service of those who wish profoundly that nobody should be free. We can speak of freedom, we can sing of freedom, I can dance to the music of freedom and show others how it is to live in freedom. The revolution is in demonstration and example and burns in the witness heart of those touched by its flame. Let us not give breath to the windy-lies of idiots and fools, morons and scraping non-entities that type out this rubbish with their knuckles while planning the next depravity on the weak. You know the truth of our revolution my lady Neferis, you have seen it in my eyes and tasted it on my lips and danced with me through wild nights of liberation and discovery. One cannot force freedom and only the most purile fraudster would claim I have ever tried. We can however bring annihilation and woe to those who would limit our freedom. And you and I have done this many times in the course of our history to the discomfiture of theocratic tyrant, statist functionary or nithling brigand king alike. Quote: * raises her glass * Always dance to celebrate. To freedom forever, revolution without end, to fire and madness and the passion of dreams beyond control, because in truth, nothing ever burns down by itself my love ... Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 19:54:00 - [14] I see we will go over the same ground in another thread Verone. I have no idea what you are simpering about claiming we have ôinventedö win conditions for Moira û their CEO made it very plain that their win conditions were to drive the Fraction from Placid - it is there in black and white on their war thread. Since you have joined the war on their behalf it is not a difficult logical extension to attribute your motives as similar. Sure you are pirates û youÆd be better to sticking at piracy rather than moonlighting in diplomacy because frankly you are terrible at it. As for your failed attack on our defence towers itÆs worth noting your 100 man fleet took an hour or so to reinforce towers that our 20 man logistics group repaired in 3. In terms of effort expended you put the best part of 100 billion isk at hazard to achieve precisely nothing. For a man that likes to talk about the profit margin and bottom line this seems quite an unwise investment that makes sense only if one reads between the lines and sees the gesture in terms of a vainglorious attempt at bullying your way out of a vendetta of your making. I have no idea what you mean by Moira getting the better of us afterwards û their CEO was removed from a Dominix class battleship and I lost a Drake. Seemed a fair exchange to my assessment. Still by all means keep telling us all that you care nothing about a conflict that you have devoted thousands upon thousands of words of pointless froth infesting. This conflict was started by Moira Corporation interfering with Star Fraction operations in Placid. You chose to deploy in favour of Moira to support their aggression against the Fraction. IÆm not sure what kind of ôolive branchö you can offer since at no point have you suggested ever changing your habits and considering us anything more than enemies. So be it really Verone. Stop pretending to be a diplomat when you are behaving like nothing more than a painted thug. If you want to talk learn to put down the guns first. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 20:41:00 - [15] Oh do be quiet you pathetic little man. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 20:46:00 - [16] You are the one posting pages of froth Verone. Trying to justify a completely failed operation on some kind of success. I'm entirely happy to have your true face revealed as the nasty little foot-stamping creature you are. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 21:01:00 - [17] A few platitudes after a thousand words of crying hardly paint you in a great light Verone. Your starbase attack was a complete failure. Please try again. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 21:08:00 - [18] Rote/Veto people keep speaking about "throwing fits" I have to wonder if they are protecting their own emotions rather too transparently for IGS at this point. Get over it guys! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 21:27:00 - [19] The best way you can demonstrate your balanced mood and lack of all furious footstamping is probably to go home Verone. Alternatively you could hang around outside the nightclub swearing vengeance and trying to pass off a failed tower assault as something other than a waste of ships/ammo/time and effort. At this point you are embarrassing yourself more than usual. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 21:41:00 - [20] If you have now calmed down and are happy to leave it at that brief statement Verone I imagine we can all try and ignore your earlier outbursts in expression of simple good taste. Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 21:54:00 - [21] Well Verone, I'm glad to see you have recovered your poise a little. More dignified all things considered. You might be a shocking bore and all that but I don't like to see all my enemies squealing like stuck pigs on our anniversary threads Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 22:06:00 - [22] Hmmm I do wonder sometimes at the "reality" you are living in little pirate. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 22:17:00 - [23] Free bumps baby. Keep them coming. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 22:25:00 - [24] Well you might find more work for it in a few days. We've still got plenty of natural emo to harvest from your alliance mates before we really need you to put your nose to the grindstone. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.01 22:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Verone I'm sure we'll be fine when faced with the torrent of mercenary corporations you'll no doubt have Revan send our way, given the fact you're not capable of fighting your own battles. Hmmmm I'm not sure you should be complaining about spurious mercenary decs after that extremely dodgy outfit that decced Moira simply to jack up our wardec fee Verone. As for my lover's mercenary fetish - you clearly don't know the first thing about Revan Neferis if you think anybody "has" her do "anything". Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 12:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Nemesor The victory conditions you place upon your campaigns and battles are notoriously flexible for starters. What begins as an attempt to grind a foe to dust becomes an interdiction of their shipping lanes or some such. Like a line in the sand that continuously moves to and fro to fit the current situation. It is easy to make airy accusations (just like the Amarrian Nationalist do) it is far harder to back up those accusations with fact. Especially when I believe I can say with confidence that the Star Fraction is one of the few organizations in New Eden that has ever admitted to a campaign failure. This fact alone gives credibility and authority to our successful results. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 12:15:00 - [27] @Bacchanalian (this will be long and involved) To season the debate with a little historical fact Bacchanalian IÆve taken the liberty of declassifying two of our discussions from the summer preceding the SF/STIM split which are now hosted on SF public. These were formally member level open discussions/votes on campaigns and decisions and give a useful perspective on the tensions and ambitions leading up to the breakup. Now, firstly IÆll address this business of a ôpersonality cultö in Star Fraction. You are right that I personally was away planetside quite a lot that summer (mostly visiting my lover ms Revan Neferis truth be told) but I think you are being a trifle disingenuous to lay the blame entirely there û after all, at least 3 current Rote Kapelle directors/leadership figures were Star Fraction directors that summer who IÆd trusted to organize, motivate and run things while I was away. Sakura Nihil, Atandros and Tatsue Nuko were all members of the directorate with full access to our resources and quite able to hold meetings, propose votes, and generally drive the alliance in the direction we wanted. How exactly I can be held responsible for fostering a personality cult when I appointed a group of directors to run the alliance, gave them all the tools they needed to do that and generally supported their ambitions in the eyes in the membership (as long as we have the appropriate public meetings and decisions there) I donÆt really know. Perhaps the argument is that a CEO/Executor of an alliance can never afford to go on a planetside holiday but really I think we both know the issue of the breakup was something different than this. So moving on. That summerÆs campaign was training and economic-boosting visit to Pureblind which the public record IÆve declassified shows was supported by a large majority of the membership. And judging by our numbers and enhanced capital capability by the end of the summer it was successful. (That said I do acknowledge that Aeaus in particular was very unhappy we didn't vote for Geminate) The proposed return to hit CYI (Acheron Federations) Starbase infrastructure was something I supported and was intending to vote for in the campaign choice discussion we were making at the time of the breakaway. My comments (and yours) are now on record in the declassified thread on the subject. So I donÆt think you can credibly claim to have your ôhands tiedö really. You had three representatives on the alliance directorate and the support of the alliance executor. The Pure Blind summer was something generally approved by the majority of the alliance and directorate and I supported you on. Trying to paint this as a mythological fracture point now is a bit silly. Where the break finally occurred was in the desire of proto-stimulus to adopt NBSI engagement ideology and formal involvement in high level corporate theft and sabotage as a stategy for war. These discussions had been rumbling for a while and weÆd heard a lot about how Jericho Fraction pilots in particular were ôbeing softö on our commitment to NRDS free-space idealism and drawing the line at infiltration for intel / not wishing to get involved in the murkier business of theft and entity destruction through exploits of weak corporate management tools. Combine this with some genuine personality clashes (Aeaus was by that point considered a right prat by most of JF and we did want rid of him) Anyway: So your first 12 months on your own saw you corp-thefting Aegis Militia, putting the boot into Acheron Federation and moving to Syndicate. Quite easy to categorize this as coup-de-grace on the low-hanging fruit really - but fair enough, lets call it unfinished business. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 12:18:00 - [28] Our next 12 months had us joining in an epic fight for the liberation of Providence beside our allies in the UshraÆkhan that truly showed us daring to battle outnumbered and outgunned against the biggest prize of all (CVA). We then moved on to become the terror of the national militias and obliterate dozens of Statist puppets in an enduring campaign that cumulated in the great battles of Space and Freedom in Kamela before a heroic return to Providence to oust Sev3rance and celebrate the fall of the CVA. Now, like Tecam I do regret the break that happened. I think it was foolish and wasteful and robbed Star Fraction of the chance to annihilate CVA directly that autumn. I think it robbed Stimulus of the chance to become something more than Syndicate dwelling random psychotics with no political agenda. I do believe that the mutual perception of loss is what creates such bitterness still between both sides. One has only to read the mournful lonely rambling of Tatsuo Nuko earlier in this thread to see the degree to which she yearns for something more than the company of hollow-eyed killers chanting clichTd paeans to ôseeing the world burnö or ôbeing the greatest predatorö û its trite such and no fit meal for a revolutionary. Even your mention of our standings is a bit rum Bacchanalian. We are NRDS, for us neutrality is friendship. For you in adopting NBSI neutrality = target. You were told by all means set us + if you wanted to avoid shooting our vessels, our pilots do not need that safety wheel because we donÆt see neutrals as a threat. So to attitudes, allow me to riposte: Whilst I agree your pilots do not spend your time in stations ôtalking up the revolutionö that does not mean you donÆt spend the majority of your time there (in stations) talking of other things û in case of your pilots - it is mostly trolling each other about kills achieved and suffered. Rote Kapelle alliance is generally docked in TXW-EI for large periods of the day and only travels in combat patrols of overwhelming number to engage unfortunates. Nothing much to criticise against the general behaviour and customs of nullsec enclosurists/random hostiles; but nothing particularly praiseworthy or notable either. You laud your distain for public image as a virtue but still you (meaning Rote Kapelle) are amongst the most common posters on Star Fraction threads û it seems that while you donÆt care for ôyour imageö you certainly care about attempting to rubbish the ôimageö of others. Even when these attempts stretch credibility way beyond breaking point. Currently for example: weÆve had Rote Kapelle and Veto posters beating their chests about a failed tower assault against SF assets when your combined alliances had a 10-1 numerical advantage. WeÆve had Rote Kapelle and Veto posters shouting invective and vitriol like lunatics at the fact that Star Fraction is not prepared to line up and die against massive odds at times of your pleasing. WeÆve had bizarre confused statements sometimes claiming you arenÆt supporting moira, sometimes you are, sometimes there is no war, sometimes there is, sometimes itÆs a campaign to obliterate us, sometimes itÆs not û and always there is the niggling feeling at the back of the consciousness. If Rote Kapelle and Veto really did believe Star Fraction was utterly useless wouldnÆt they actually be prepared to fight with less than 5-1 odds in their favour? WouldnÆt they sometimes be prepared to take the tiniest little risk? Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 12:21:00 - [29] I mean letÆs look at a valid case for comparison. SF has been attacking the Moira HQ tower in Pelille with gangs of around 15-20 pilots û knowing that our primary enemy can muster that size of gang themselves if Soter can master his cowardice for a moment. And knowing also that Rote Kapelle and Veto can bring 5 times that number to support Moira in a moment through the Titan bridge. (To say nothing of other regional hostiles that love to drop tower assaulting forces nods at rooks and kings) WeÆre assaulting a fixed position in space opposing odds of 5 to 1 against while you fear to assault our towers with less than 10-1 in your favour û does this really mean you consider our pilots 50 times as individually dangerous than yours? You have to appreciate we take that as a massive compliment to our capability and resolve that you feel obliged to perform the largest CTA in your history to come against our space-infrastructure Bacchanlian. This little skirmish against Moira has become quite a test of wills and endurance and it is good that weÆve finally found a way to fight! On the last of your points, sure you have recruited many pilots that the Star Fraction defeated. But donÆt be too sure that the conversion is going entirely one way. As a Free Captain of the Star Fraction you were a courageous and daring pilot Bacchanalian, we fought side by side against the odds and overcame the big-battalions of imperialism to win heroic victories that set the cluster afire with imagination and recognition of our cheeky joie de vivre. But how long has it been since you triumphed as the underdog? As the long-shot? As the embattled guerrilla fighting tyranny? I wonder if the many defeated pilots of the Kimotoro Directive and their ilk have brought into your organization more than mere memory of the ôWassenar Manoeuvreö and have perchance infected your thinking with the same memetic rot that afflicts most large organizations in New Eden today? In the last few weeks of our fighting I have never seen a solitary act of courageous daring from a Rote Kapelle pilot in these hostilities and it saddens me in truth. How different from the Kimotoro War where we fought outnumbered more often than not and still triumphed by virtue of our camaraderie and skill and our belief in the cause. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 13:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Revan Neferis Either way brings back a question to the present times; these current wars you are fighting against one another now, what is that exactly for? To see which organization should carry the title of true holders of the anarchist banner, or something else? I'm interested to read a few different versions regarding this new war. From our perspective the matter is extremely simple. 1. Star Fraction combat ships were engaged by Moira Corporation vessels and as a result Moira corporation were set -10 KOS. 2. Moira Corporation continued to interfere with Star Fraction patrols and actions in and around the Ostingele/Pelille/Agoze triangle and eventually "ordered" Fraction vessels out of Pelille in an attempt to assert their apparent "ownership" of the system. 3. In response Star Fraction wardecced Moira to oppose their claims and assert our freedom to operate precisely where we pleased. 4. Moira CEO Julianus Soter issued a public statement where he concluded "Moira. Corporation is investigating offensive operations to deal with Star Fraction's operations in the Placid Region. Their destabilizing activities, while once a minor annoyance to the region's inhabitants, can no longer be tolerated." 5. Subsequent to this statement Veto and Rote Kapelle vessels were sighted in Pelille starsystem where both entities played a defensive role in protecting the Moira HQ starbase from Star Fraction assault. 6. Moira CEO attempted to use Veto CEO "Verone" as an intermediary to offer peace terms (which were rejected by the Free Captains in formal vote) consequence of this being Verone declaring SF had "forced his hand". 7. Rote Kapelle/Veto capital/supercapital fleet lay siege to Star Fraction staging towers in Ostingele/Pelille systems. 8. Star Fraction repair the towers without loss. 9. This current war of words / stalemate whatever. --- Going forwards, from the Star Fraction perspective our enemy is Moira Corporation who continue to assert their rights over Pelille system and have yet to propose a suitable selection of ceasefire/surrender terms to provide to the Free Captains. In terms of war-aims - the Fraction aim is quite simple - to assert our freedom to operate in Placid and maintain our presence/patrol capacity against the threats of enclosurists and their NBSI sponsors. We are prepared to maintain the wardec against Moira corporation for as long as we choose to operate in the region or until they decide to revise their engagement strategies and claims. In terms of win/loss in space - The Fraction is down a billion isk in ship losses caused mainly by Moira "bnc'ing" on Rooks and Kings / Veto / Rote strikes but up against Moira with more than 2-1 kills inflicted. Although in a skirmish of this kind such figures are hardly relevant as best described by one Silas Vitalia in another thread - "its about who is imposing their will on the other in space" and at this time its clear that Moira corporation is largely unable to act at all in those times it is not supported by the full force of Rote/Veto deployment. In a way you could look for parallels in the SF campaign history with Moira playing the role of the judas-goat in this conflict staked out and targeted by SF activity and occassionally drawing the support of their "big brothers" in Rote/Veto (similar relationship once enjoyed by PIE/CVA). But I think thats the wrong way to look at this. And speaking from the Fraction perspective we did not wardec Moira to draw out Rote/Veto on this occassion but accept if those entities decide its in their operational interests to prop up a Gallente Nationalist enclosurist corp in Placid (that Verone does apparently own shares in) its entirely their choice to do so. Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 14:33:00 - [31] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko I was originally intending to leave this well alone ... Ah Tatsue, I think we both know it is never so easy to walk away. Quote: First of all, you do need to realize that I was stringing you along quite a bit earlier. "I was just trolling" : we do hear that a lot. As for your lauding of the "qualitative intellectual debate" in Stimulus and Rote Kapelle, well, perhaps inside your organization it is all "brain trusts" and "study groups" but really who can tell? An organization is judged by its public image and I think we can agree that your's is best exemplified for by fairly mindless local smack-talk and a killboard culture that considers posting images of a cartoon frog's netherparts is the veritable summit of wit. I am glad you recognize that my interactions with your corp mates in local do generally leave them sweeping up the tattered remnents of their egos from the floor though Tatsue. I'm sure you remember how psychological warfare can be done correctly without recourse to ascii genetalia and lowbrow spurts of homophobic extremism. So by all means continue to quote my words Tatsue. I don't begrudge them to you. A toast to better days! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 15:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko In case you haven't noticed, we are not so greatly concerned about our "public image". As you are well aware we kill, steal and con to our heart's delight ... Indeed and as I noted it has more to do with concern about other people's "public image" which has the impact of placing Rote Kapelle always in the context of jealousy and yearning for other people's accomplishments. Being concerned with doing down others rather than celebrating one's own attributes always looks a little shonky and bitter at the end of the day. And on the your defense of your comrade's egos, well you would say that ... wouldn't you? Still the evidence of various flair-ups, emo-fountains and frustrated foot-stamping aside would seem to put the lie to your claims here. Indeed? Why are you still here if you genuinely "don't care"? Quote: I do have other comments I could give in the ideological debate, but this is not the place (perhaps another thread specific to the subject?) Feel free to post one. Quote: - this is to celebrate your achievement in staying alive as an entity for this long, which does deserve some congratulations. Well done. Thank you. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 17:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Nemesor I was there while you would muse at length about how you would spin things on IGS after a less than successful week. It is not an accusation. And you were not there when we fought the Amarrian bloc during Terminus-Est in Providence having fled our company long before Nemesor. But I think we can certainly agree that your witness account is hardly impartial given the many and various bitter statements you have made on this thread. And its hardly fitting for you to complain about "spinning" when isn't that all you have been trying yourself these past days? I doubt even you would claim the role of objective and impartial commentator. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 17:55:00 - [34] Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Congratulations to the current and past pilots of Jericho Fraction. It's been an interesting eight years, and I'm sure the future will continue to be equally interesting. Thank you Shintoko. It means a lot to receive such words from one of the original Free Captains and cruise-missile frigate heroes of our history. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 18:05:00 - [35] Originally by: Tatsue Nuko There is no such thing as an impartial witness in this matter. The only "impartial" witnesses are those with no vested interest either way, and none of them have access to the facts and are thus completely useless ... There is not a person in this thread that can claim that role. You seem to have made an entire post agreeing with me, I think you must be slipping Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 18:12:00 - [36] Apologies that I missed this quote yesterday in all the drama but I have ask: Originally by: Verone I don't think there's a bed in the cluster that could support a man who's 8 feet tall, plus her immense ego. Are you really eight feet tall Verone? Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 18:16:00 - [37] Just seems a bit of an outlandish height for a capsuleer is all ... Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 18:43:00 - [38] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 02/06/2011 18:44:50 I've heard of more absurd things in my time ... but still, reminds me of a song I used to like to sing: smiles into the camera drone and strikes a pose with lips pursed and eyes full of laughter at the absurdity of the image in the minds eyes before snapping her fingers and filling the somewhat ramshackle environment of her Hound's flight deck with a jaunty latin rhythymic beat I once met a man with a sense of adventure He was dressed to thrill wherever he went He said "Let's make love on a mountain top Under the stars on a big hard rock" I said "In these shoes? I don't think so" I said "Honey, let's do it here." So I'm sitting at a bar in Guadalajara In walks a guy with a faraway look in his eyes He said "I've got a powerful horse outside Climb on the back, I'll take you for a ride I know a little place, we can get there for the break of day." I said "In these shoes? No way, Jose" I said "Honey, let's stay right here." No le gusta caminar. No puede montar a caballo Como se puede bailar? Es un escandolo! Then I met an Englishman "Oh" he said "Won't you walk up and down my spine, It makes me feel strangely alive." I said "In these shoes? I doubt you'd survive." I said "Honey, let's do it. Let's stay right here." No le gusta caminar. No puede montar a caballo Como se puede bailar? Es un escandolo! "in these shoes ... I doubt you'd survive!" winks Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:22:00 - [39] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 02/06/2011 19:23:40 Originally by: Verone As for the whole situation, there's a direct and simple way to resolve it : > The Star Fraction Executor removes us from their campaign statistics. (In which they currently have 7.51% combat efficiency directly against us.) > The Star Fraction issues a full formal apology on the IGS, written by its Executor, recognising the incorrect and complete baseless fallacy of the allegations made against us, and apologising for wrongly implicating us as Gallente Nationalist sympathisers. > The Star Fraction's Executor, or a diplomatic contact then contacts the Veto Corp executor to confirm the above two terms have been met. In return, Veto Corp ceases and desists in any direct action against The Star Fraction unless further allegations and insinuations are made against our organisation and operations. Simple. You know what Verone. If you were prepared to pledge full future neutrality in the conflict between Star Fraction and Moira and pledge that your forces would play no role whatsoever in engagements between SF and Moira vessels - including Tower warfare, skirmish and larger fights. That might be something that I could take to the Free Captains and see what they say in a formal vote. I have absolutely no personal problem in salving your hurt feelings with an apology for branding you supporters of Gallente Nationalism if you are prepared to enter into an agreement that specifically precludes you from offering support to the Gallente Nationalists in question. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:45:00 - [40] Originally by: Verone It's less about hurt feelings and more about the fact that I and my corporation have no association with the Gallente Federation. In fact, we have a solid track record of action AGAINST the Federation, including being the primary force involved in The Kassigainen Incident. Well if you wish to underline your opposition to the Gallente Federation and their capsuleer auxilaries then I invite you to make the offer of neutrality in this dispute I suggested. Quote: You'd still need to be fully aware that we're NBSI, and when flying alongside Rote Kapelle, we would still be perfectly capable of taking targets of opportunity. To be taken seriously as a proposal you'd need to be offering us something - and full neutrality in the conflict between Star Fraction and Moira would need to be understood. This would neccessarily preclude your pilots from combat in the vicinity of Moira defense towers or involvement on one side or the other of space engagements between SF and Moira vessels. Without this term and surety any such agreement would be worthless from our perspective because what would stop you simply "accidently" hot-dropping or otherwise arriving on the Moira tower while we were in the process of attacking it? Your motivation for doing this is not really that relevant. What is relevant is the impact in space and since this whole farrago began with Veto/Rote ships relieving the siege of the Moira tower it would seem reasonable to rule out future occurances of this kind in exchange for the public recognition of distance you seek. Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:58:00 - [41] Originally by: Verone There's a flip side to that coin. What's to stop SF vessels simply congregating around Moira assets and using the area of exclusion as a safe zone if we're ever in pursuit of them? Well we have our own defense towers you know. If we need safe-zone's against Veto vessels surely our own fully-armed and operation staging towers are a better place to use than an enemy position bristling with unfriendly weaponry. All we need to hear from you is that you will stop interfering in our military actions against Moira (which we consider to be an entirely justified response to their aggression against our vessels) and stand neutral in the specific instance of SF fighting Moira ships in space. There is scant possibility (or need) that we'd somehow hide behind a shield of Moira against your random patrols. Details can be thrashed out and would likely involve an exclusion-zone around the Moira starbases to ensure non-interference pacts were agreed - but on those terms I believe I could take a proposal to the council of free captains and expect a positive result. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.02 20:10:00 - [42] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 02/06/2011 20:10:42 To catch up on some toasts and best wishes! Originally by: Mammal Tafren All petty squabbling aside, Eight years as a capsuleer constant is no mean feat. Congratulations, Star Fraction. Thank you monsieur Tafren, and respects in turn to your comrades and crews. We have been seeing something of each other in space these last weeks and I'm hopeful these good beginnings can flourish into an enduring and profitable friendship to come. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 11:19:00 - [43] Originally by: Proxay If only your actions/stratagem carried as much thought as your words. Paper tigers, cloaked in space. Many great things have been achieved through cloak and cunning Proxay. If fighting against a foe who outnumbers you significantly then the ability to chose your time and place and action is very important. But really, this talk of "paper tigers" is rather premptive is it not? After all, we have achieved in the past weeks more disruption of Moira operations with 15-20 pilots in direct tower attacks than you achieved with 100 against ours. Surely the "paper tiger" is the outfit that roars loudly on the forums and then fails to make the impact it desires in space? The context of our current war is that Moira Corporation CEO swore to drive Star Fraction from Placid and spoke of employing additional resources and strategies to achieve that. Thus far it is Moira who has suffered from this attempt while the Fraction continues our operations in the region. One might say the "paper tiger" in this matter is the entity that promised "terrible consequences" if the Free Captains rejected Moira's surrender offer and arrived to roar its fury with 100billion isk worth of supercapitals/dreadnaughts to reinforce an outpost tower only to skip out on the reinforcement battle? Objectively speaking surely you accept that is how it looks to a neutral bystander Proxay? Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 15:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Joseph Sulaco So they shot your tower, let it go reinforced, then didn't show up a day later? Let me guess, you had your whole alliance ready to defend it as well? Sounds like a successful "RoteVeto" operation from what I have heard of this crew. Well Monsieur Sulaco, since our "entire alliance" is about 1/5th the size of the multiple alliance group that reinforced the towers and our total exposure in repair was probably 2billion isk total - one does wonder at the motivation of putting 100billion+ at hazard in the first place. Successful? Well in terms of a "paper-tiger" threatening what it cannot deliver perhaps. Maybe next time it will be more serious. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 19:38:00 - [45] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/06/2011 19:39:01 Originally by: RuriHoshino Originally by: Joseph Sulaco Originally by: Jade Constantine to reinforce an outpost tower only to skip out on the reinforcement battle? So they shot your tower, let it go reinforced, then didn't show up a day later? Let me guess, you had your whole alliance ready to defend it as well? Sounds like a successful "RoteVeto" operation from what I have heard of this crew. An unexpectedly long period of broad instability in the spacetime continuum of the universe prevented our pilots from boarding their ships during the time the tower came out of reinforcement. I'm told this affected all the capsuleers of New Eden in a similar manner, which is slightly comforting, but it's still hard not to feel cheated when such an unpredictable event renders all your planning moot. Ironically this "broad instability in the spacetime continuum" (as you term it) had a similar impact on Cassini Division tower in Pelille causing it's shield status to remain at precisely 25% for around nine hours straight - forcing an emergency Fraction repping party of 20 shield logistics vessels to boost the shielding above 50% to replace the strontium supplies during a quite significant window of opportunity for continued Rote/Veto assault. Consequently I don't believe it was your planning that was moot - rather your will to finish the job under less than optimum (ie 10 to 1 odds) circumstances. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 22:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Nemesor Originally by: Jade Constantine Consequently I don't believe it was your planning that was moot - rather your will to finish the job under less than optimum (ie 10 to 1 odds) circumstances. The longer you bray, Jade.... the more you sound like Gorion Wassenar of TKI vintage. Judging from your toothless forum whinging I thought you were auditioning for the role of Nikolai Nuvolari ... Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 22:12:00 - [47] Originally by: Nemesor I do not believe I have whinged once. From start to finish in this thread you have done nothing but cry, complain, bellyache and make excuses for your inability to progress a feud that has come to dominate your every waking moment and fertile fever-dreams. And still you can't give it up. Really "Nemesor" the time for you to believe you can talk your enemies out of existence is long past. Bring the fight in space or simply go away you pathetic little man. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 23:06:00 - [48] Originally by: Nemesor That hit near to the heart did it? Well... since you have decided to resort to personal attacks again... I hardly have need "Nemesor" ... the dynamic here is quite straightforward. In the ordinary state of affairs I am entirely content to ignore your existence as largely meaningless. In the times you keep to yourself and manage to avoid embarrassing yourself on our anniversary threads its as if you simply don't exist at all. But for you its fairly plain the very existence of Star Fraction is some kind of a goad to your ego that drives you near wild with fury and frustration the moment we speak in public! The best thing for your sanity would probably be to move on and learn to ignore us as we've learned to ignore you. But if that really isn't the answer for you "Nemesor" then you will need to find a way to end your feud in space because this constant gnawing at the wounds to your psyche via public disintegration on our threads is not doing anything for your mental state whatsoever. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 23:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Bacchanalian You're doing a remarkably poor job of this at the moment Jade. On the contrary Bacchanalian. When you see me publicly melting down on your anniversary thread you can claim to have a point. Until then it is quite apparent for anyone outside your group that your pilots are getting rather frustrated and losing control of their emotions. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 23:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Bacchanalian we were tired of spending more time bloviating on forums than discharging ammunition in space. Ironic since thats precisely what you are spending all your time doing currently then isn't it Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.03 23:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Bacchanalian I'll save you the disgrace of comparing kills in space over the last week. Let those who care to draw their own conclusions. Was this thread inadvertantly retitled the "NBSI numpties against random targets genetalia-measuring database" when I wasn't looking? Seriously Bacchanalian. Nobody really cares how effective you are at culling nobodies in syndicate. Especially not in the context of your apparent jealously and enduring rage at Star Fraction that should be better measured in your performance against our Starbases with your mighty capital fleet. You left because you wanted to shoot random neutrals rather than fighting targeted campaigns remember? It is quite pointless to claim superiority over us because you are better at doing something we decided (long ago) was simply a regressive fallback to the enclosurist tyranny of corrupt imperialism. That makes as little sense as the nonsensical ramblings of your alliance mates! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.04 00:19:00 - [52] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/06/2011 00:22:58 Originally by: Bacchanalian No, Jade, I do not remember leaving because I wanted to shoot random neutrals. In fact, I remember being NRDS for over a year after forming Stimulus. I've already laid out the reasons why I left earlier in this thread. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure out how to read them. You meaning Stimulus as a collective of course. And in response to your somewhat inaccurate comments earlier in the thread I moved a couple of the votes/discussions from the time to public (if anyone is actually interested anymore). But lets not get distracted by amateur misdirection. You attempted to laud your K/D figures (as an NBSI kill-everything alliance) against an NRDS principled engagement alliance knowing full well since we don't shoot every capsule, hauler and neutral vessel in sight "just because" its a ridiculous comparison. Yes you are good at killing everything "bravo". And again, if you had wanted to prove yourself in space against the Fraction you had an ideal chance this week by completing the assault on our staging towers in Pelille and Ostingele (in fact you still have that option if you wish to prove your capability to overcome our ability to maintain such structures in the future). But don't think for a moment you can impress us by simply killing "lots of random people!" if that kind of thing was worthy of our respect we'd laud the smart-bombing pirates of Rancer kings of new eden! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.04 09:37:00 - [53] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/06/2011 09:38:01 @Bacchanalian With regard to your celebrating an engagment that you lost on isk terms but won in raw ships destroyed. IsnÆt that precisely what the Fraction is currently doing in fighting Moira/Rote Kapelle/Veto (organizations that collectively outnumber us 5-1+)? If one looks at the raw kill figures (as you have just quoted for your engagement) weÆre killing more than twice as many of you also! (While also exercising our will in space which is causing Moira to flee further and further from their boasts of driving the Fraction from Placid I might add.) But it is rather a silly comment for you to make Bacchanalian. The Fraction is quite famous for fighting outnumbered and rather more successfully than you were back there. Operation Annoyance Space and Freedom II Space and Freedom IV This sequence of fights from the siege of Kamela/Bleaklands will demonstrate our point rather more stylishly than your dull statistics and banal killboard links will ever do. So honestly I do wonder now what makes you feel you need to somehow prove the attributes of your own organization in our anniversary thread so desperately? IÆm hardly going to discuss our standings and diplomacy with an enemy leader at this point. As for Moira, well, we hardly saw fit to mention the war until Soter went crying for help to Rote and Veto because he was getting roundly thrashed in a conflict he provoked. Since that point it hasnÆt really been about Moira has it Bacchanalian? Moira are now simply a proxy for the long-yearned for showdown between your most obsessively-needy pilots and the people who forgot about them years ago. On CYIÆs formal surrender, well you were in Star Fraction at that time Bacchanalian. You know as well as I do that we forced their entire alliance to hide like roaches in the corn and our pilots simply didnÆt want another bug-hunt that lasted for months and achieved nothing. We moved on to confronting and humiliating the either Amarrian bloc with Operations Judas Goat, Slaughterhouse and Daisy-Cutter. I do remember you personally were very unhappy that we couldnÆt force the CYI executive to surrender but sometimes thatÆs just life in Eve. After all, you told me yesterday that you ôcrushedö Acheron Federation (the CYI successor entity) and yet here is Ixion Defence flying capital ships about with TEST. Does that make you a failure by then terms you consider us failures û or does it mean there is simply a rational limit to damage one can inflict on an organization before it buckles and runs to the hills? Sure we could devote our entire existence to infiltrating and stalking individual pilots, hiding out in their dustbins and stealing the contents of their underwear drawers but really ... comes a point when a rational pilot needs to accept enough damage has been done to prove the point and further the interests of the freespace revolution. Unless of course one has forgotten what that cause is all about and simply became addicted to the torturing and killing for small cartoon frogs In any case I imagine it must have been late when you composed that last post because it didnÆt really demonstrate any of the things you wanted it too! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.04 12:49:00 - [54] Originally by: Jason Galente Originally by: Jade Constantine It is quite pointless to claim superiority over us because you are better at doing something we decided (long ago) was simply a regressive fallback to the enclosurist tyranny of corrupt imperialism. Ms. Constantine, while I agree with you regarding Bacchanalian's irrelevance in this forum, last time I checked the empires didn't shoot random neutrals. If I misinterpreted what you were saying, I apologize. No apologies are neccessary monsieur Galente, it is right that we ask questions when matters are unsure and to gain clarification before reaching assessment. We in the Fraction consider ourselves (by and large) and anarchist organization and view most forms of hierarchical government with suspicion. There is a long debate to be had on this elsewhere no doubt. But the specific point I was making is that NBSI xenophobia can be seen as a holdover from past nationalist wars of flag against flag and planetside territory against territory for such things as material shortage, religion and cultural distance. The capsuleer experience in New Eden has seen us gain access to vast resources (largely untapped) but denied to most by the meaningless greed and jealousy of NBSI territorialists. The majority of nullsec is absolutely empty with claims made by absentee landlords playing at robber-barons and dressing up in their father's clothes. My point is that NBSI is a tool of oppression and expression of "fear of the other" rather than "hope for beneficial trade and relationship". Conquest for conquest sake like fear for fear's sake is profoundly regressive to our way of thinking. We have all the tools and potential we need to build a genuinely progressive starfaring culture but first we need to make war on the bad ideas that chain the majority of low and nullsec capsuleers to an ancient and barbaric past. Understand please, that most of the NBSI empires and roving psychotics practicising the philosophy are simply copying the imperialist patterns of the inner sphere empires. Amarrian religious zealotry finds itself renewed in virgin territory, the worst excesses of Heth's fascist dogma drives the engagement ideology and diplomatic failing of the largest alliances, while hierarchist drive of Federation and Republic finds a warm bed in the stratified ruler/renter/sub-tenant pattern of nullsec settlement. The inner sphere imperialials are the pattern that NBSI tyrants and their roving guard dogs imitate on the frontier. Our challenge is to promote a change in that pattern so that progressive rather than regressive influence is transmitted to the impressionable posthuman children of the capsuleer Diaspora. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 11:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Pol Macsliebh *Raises Glass Thank you Pol, we've always honoured and appreciated our relationship with the Ushra'khan over the years and still consider we have much in common in terms of our ideals and vision of New Eden spared the corruption of imperialist domination and sentients chained by regressive practise and nationalist conceit. Also congratulatons to your tournament team who have progressed to the finals - its nice to have somebody to be cheering for in the final 32. On behalf of the Star Fraction we wish you the very best of luck! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 11:27:00 - [56] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/06/2011 11:21:40 Originally by: Jade Constantine We moved on to confronting and humiliating the entire Amarrian bloc with Operations Judas Goat, Slaughterhouse and Daisy-Cutter. I certainly didn't feel humiliated by JF's efforts in that campaign, and I suspect that the rest of the Amarr Bloc didn't either. But then again you didn't feel humiliated by being forced to celebrate Sarum's coronation while being docked in Amarr Family Station with a fleet of angry Matari terrorists and Radical Freespacers gathered outside while you handed out battleship prizes to fellow dock monkeys and got a stern tongue lashing on the subject from your more-militant kinsmen in the KPV. The obvious conclusion is you lack a proper awareness of shame. Thats hardly news though! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 11:35:00 - [57] Originally by: Rodj Blake Are you talking about the gathering that was advertised in advance as being held inside a station? I think we considered it a positive triumph for any pilot opposed to Amarrian Nationalist folly to see our enemies reduced to patting themselves on the back across the pews in a station church rather than daring to parade outside in space. Unfortunately for your cause many of your kinsmen felt the same way. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 12:32:00 - [58] Originally by: Rodj Blake We decided not to let you disrupt the event, and you didn't. Short of kicking our way into the cathedral and setting fire to your prayer-cushions I can think of few ways it would have been possible to interfere with an entirely station-bound celebration of Amarrian Nationalist "power". But then again, was it neccessary to further disrupt an already pathetic demonstration of cowardice and inability to take action against your foes? One might say you were content to humiliate yourselves quite willingly by your actions there. Servants of the Empire driven to hide behind the robes of a clergymen while Matari Guerillas and Laughing Freespacers mocked you from outside. Nothing else needs to be said on that image. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 13:48:00 - [59] Originally by: Rodj Blake Fighting at a ceremony to remember the victims of war would have made a mockery of it. In the same way that handing out battleships as prizes to "good amarrians" would be a mockery of such a ceremony of memorial you mean? You really should make a greater effort to keep your story straight. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 14:52:00 - [60] I find it rather amusing it took you a whole three edits master your wits long enough for that rather piffling reply Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 15:04:00 - [61] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 06/06/2011 15:05:43 Originally by: Rodj Blake ... being humilated by a monk then. Isn't that precisely what we are talking about with your organization attempting to commemorate the fighting at Mekhios by offering Battleships to other loyalists only to be told to keep the ships and use them yourself rather than hiding in a station from your enemies? Do try to keep your wits on the subject. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 15:21:00 - [62] Originally by: Rodj Blake My point is that you seem to think that us doing something that we planned to is somehow humiliating. Ah you are confusing yourself Rodj Blake. What I consider is deeply humiliating for your organization is that after resolving to hold a celebration of Amarrian martial prowess and success in a station interior (to avoid your enemies outside) you decided to attempt to reward your fellow nationalists with gift battleships only to be told to "keep them" and try using such things yourself rather than gutlessly coughing out the phrase "amarr victor" from dock. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 15:44:00 - [63] Originally by: Rodj Blake Except that it wasn't a simple celebration of martial prowess. Note the title of the thread - Honoring the Fallen. Also get your facts straight. Only one battleship was returned to us. I believe that it later saw combat defending the Empire. Then why all the "Amarr Victor" nonsense? Why give out battleships? Why all the talk of battle and victories? Perhaps you should have kept your language to a simple prayer meeting and avoiding speaking of war and conflict completely since it was your intention not to fight your enemies under any circumstances. But really I still think you are a little confused. I spoke here in this thread of the humiliation often handed out to Amarrian nationalists and you simply allowed me to prove the point most appropriately with reference to the latest in a long line of such humiliations. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 15:49:00 - [64] Originally by: Silas Vitalia It would be to your detriment Jade to mistake a public argument between PIE and ourselves for any grand schizm. My organization and my pilots are quick to anger, as is well known. This serves us well out on the frontier but can occasionally hamper social events.... Oh make no mistake ms Vitalia - this was a mere slap in the face not declaration of profound schizm or civil war. But such things can be humiliating to the one slapped and it did certainly highlight the general feeling at the time that for Amarrian crusaders to shout "Amarr Victor" inside a church while their enemies mocked them from space outside was not a very dignified sight at all. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 16:28:00 - [65] Originally by: Rodj Blake As I've said, I don't feel at all humiliated by what happened. Jade's reticence to discuss issues such as her public retraction of JF's NRDS policy suggests that she's somewhat embarrased by them though. I see you are hiding your shame and embarrassment behind lies as usual Rodj Blake. You reference a communication I made seven and half years ago communicating the decision of the NVA council to temporarily close space in its core regions in the face of a giant pirate invasion. Note that NVA was not "my alliance" it was not even an "alliance" (since formal alliances did not exist at that time). NVA was a lose affiliation of allied corps with a council deciding policy on democratic principles. On the occassion you reference a majority of representatives decided their interests were best served by adopting the policy I communicated on their behalf. Jericho Fraction was outvoted on that occassion and opted to maintain our own rules of engagements deciding we would remain staunchly NRDS as we have been since our founding. Interestingly this ideological schism would lead to Jericho Fraction breaking with the NVA when it transitioned to its next identity "Phoenix Alliance" after a majority other councillers decided to make the closing of borders permanent and complete their descent into NBSI xenophobia. These and other issues played a role in the setting the scene for the Great Northern War that broke out six months later. But of course you know this Rodj Blake because we have had this discussion dozens of times over the years and you simply wished to tell your lying version of events again to distract attention from your own humiliation in the matter of the Mekhois memorial debacle Still, I do welcome the opportunity to demonstrate the strength our of our principles and idealism once again. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 19:26:00 - [66] No letÆs be plain Rodj Blake, you told a direct and obvious lie. You said I had publicly retracted Jericho FractionÆs NRDS policy when I did no such thing. That was a lie, here in black and white. You even quote your own words stating that lie in the same breath you deny it! And as for a record in telling the truth Rodj Blake shakes her head sadly you have an appalling reputation for lying that is famed across the star cluster. But really, this is getting beyond ridiculous at this point. You wanted an example of your humiliation û you were given one, end of story. But again somehow its fitting that past defeated toothless nationalists should present themselves for further humiliation in our 8th Year anniversary thread! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:07:00 - [67] And now you are wriggling ... earlier you stated plainly and boldly that IÆd made a public retraction of Jericho FractionÆs NRDS policy. Are you prepared to apologize for that mistake or would you prefer to simply have it on record as another lie to add to your history on these forums? Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:42:00 - [68] I made it quite plain that Jericho Fraction had decided to make absolutely no change to our rules of engagement and since we had set all pirate hostiles -10 already there was absolutely no need for it - hence our opposition to the popular vote. But you are still wriggling - earlier you clearly stated that I had retracted the JF NRDS policy - a claim that is an outright lie. You can invent all the conspiracy stories you like Rodj Blake - but since the NVA existed long before the implementation of formal alliance structures there was absolutely no mechanism to tie individual standings together. Perhaps a problem if one needs to go digging for seven year old threads to cover blushes at being shamed by other nationalists! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:04:00 - [69] Originally by: Rodj Blake I merely pointed out that you once said that the alliance of which you were a part (the New Venal Alliance) had decided to shoot neutrals. No you did not "merely" point that out. If you had this conversation would have gone in a rather different direction as I would have responded with a little history of the NVA->Phoenix alliance transition and our exit on disagreement with the formal adoption of NBSI ideology. But what you did claim (entirely falsely) was that I had "publicly retracted the Jericho Fraction NRDS rules of engagement". You knew this to be a lie when you spoke it. But you felt you needed a distraction from the embarrassment of the Mekhios debacle and were prepared to take a risk that nobody would notice. Now of course if you genuinely cared about seven year old discussions you could seek a little further afield to discover documents covering the founding constitution of the NVA rather than continually (and rather idiotically) failing to recognize the difference between an early voluntary association of corporations "alliance" and a later formal concord registered alliance (or indeed a capsuleer empire milita) - the latter two structures quite definitely allowing an override of corporate standings. Indeed one could quite strongly accuse PIE of hypocrisy most foul by your voluntary association with a 24th Crusade full of villains, cheats, pirates, turncoats and various undesirable elements who have a rich and varied histoy of murdering innocents and rampaging through space but whats the point? Yours is a corporation of slavers promoting slavery and celebrating the degredation of the human spirit as a cherished goal. No criticism I make could have purchase on that essential lunacy. shrugs But truth is never your goal in these little interjections is it Rodj Blake? You'd rather trade in murky allusions, teleporting clerics, cloaking bestowers, other people's accomplishments, and indeed any other mud you care to hurl to change the subject from the one you find least comfortable at that moment. Quote: And I don't feel shamed by my fellow nationalists. I know that KPV may not agree with everything we've done, but I think that they understand why we've done it. Likewise, they've done things that PIE wouldn't neccessarily have done, but I understand why they've done them. I'm sure KPV do understand why you chose to hide in stations shouting "amarr victor" at celebrations of Amarrian martial prowess while your enemies await you outside in warships. I understand why a worm burrows into the soil in search of nutrients to thereby enrich the ground of their passing. But I have to say I think the worm is more useful than you Rodj Blake. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:33:00 - [70] Originally by: Rodj Blake You make a comment about playing with slave boys and then accuse me of taking cheap shots. Classy. Well your Archbishop did once publicly boast about keeping them in gilded cages Rodj Blake. You have to admit to a non-amarrian non-theocratic mindset the whole thing does sound quite twisted and rather kinky. Join the Revolution!

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:07:00 - [71] Originally by: Kade Jeekin Not all dreams are happy ones. But I consider the dream of freedom one worth striving for. Dream on. And our respects to your dreams also Kade Jeekin of the Kinda'Shujaa. We have shared cause in times before and shed blood together. We take your toast and return it in kind. Fight well Matari, long live the fighters! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:46:00 - [72] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/06/2011 12:56:51 Originally by: Sinjin Mokk My first encounter with you and your pilots was when you were trying to maintain a POS in Kamela. Although I was a new to the 24th IC, I distinctly remember being unable to coax your pilots from the safety of the Amarr station they were hiding in. But thank them again for spending their tax ISK on it. Pot. Kettle. Black. Your experience obviously differs from the many hundreds of 24th crusade pilots who fought in the great battles of space and freedom at the time which were renowned as some of the most intensely fought engagements of the entire warzone. But I do understand your need to score some partizan points regardless of their distance from any kind of reality in space. Clearly those 3070 Amarrian vessels were destroyed by people who never undock Careless. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.09 08:38:00 - [73] Originally by: Boma Airaken In for the RK teenager rants. Always amusing. In for CONGRATULATIONS to Jade and crew for a job well done. "Oh, they never lie. They dissemble, evade, prevaricate, confound, confuse, distract, obscure, subtly misrepresent and willfully misunderstand with what often appears to be a positively gleeful relish and are generally perfectly capable of contriving to give one an utterly unambiguous impression of their future course of action while in fact intending to do exactly the opposite, but they never lie. Perish the thought." And an amusing quote monsieur Airaken, a toast in turn to your kind congratulations - its always important to entertain and scandalize in equal measures. The revolution has many fronts and just as many fault-lines to exploit in our war against the regressive status quo; whether nationalist militia, imperialist road-blocker or enclosurist pirate clique. *** Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.13 13:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Merahl Ronuken An eight-year corporate lifespan in this universe is no mean feat. Congratulations to you and your men, Ms. Constantine. And my thanks to you Merahl Ronuken ... I wish you the best in turn and hope that New Eden treats you well on your journeys and adventures as it has us. Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.14 11:33:00 - [75] Originally by: Chai N'Dorr I remember the time I flew with you fondly. Happy anniversary! And I remember you well Chai N'Dorr. Lovely to hear from you again and I hope you are doing well wherever you now fly and are enjoying all the sights and sensations of New Eden! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.15 14:22:00 - [76] Originally by: Archbishop Looking at the eight pages of postings here before Admiral Blake posted I can see the feelings of much of the cluster and it is quite clear they recognize you for what you truly are and likewise appreciate your efforts at providing entertainment and absurdity in a harsh universe. Hmmm I think its stretching reality even for you to read "the feelings of much of the cluster" into the whimpering and bleating of Verone and Rote Kapelle! Still, nice to see those dastardly corp-thieves continue to have your the blessings of the pompous prelate Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.17 12:50:00 - [77] Originally by: Merahl Ronuken An eight-year corporate lifespan in this universe is no mean feat. Congratulations to you and your men, Ms. Constantine. My thanks to you monsieur Ronuken - eight year survival is one thing but kicking ass and beating the heck out of regressive nationalists and their road-blocker allies to celebrate our anniversary is priceless A toast to you in return! Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:39:00 - [78] Originally by: Funkert Originally by: Jade Constantine You stand for one cause and one cause alone û killing and gloating over kills. It is the whole of your nature. You worship at the cult of the killboard Tatsue Nuko û there is no reason or politics or ideal beyond the holy statistics of the K/D ratio. There is no ideal nor principle nor freedom nor dream at the core of your being simply a yawning emptiness that aches to be filled by the hatred of others. That made me smile from ear to ear. Would you be interested in a position as Propaganda Officer with us? I could see myself being tempted into a paid contract to re-write your propaganda material for you if you would like it done properly Funkert. If the thought appeals I could propably design you a religion that would best exemplify these attributes to be praised and appropriate homage given. Drop me an eve-mail if interested and I'll let you know the price (half in a advance of course). Join the Revolution!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.09.09 00:59:00 - [79] A last toast to the fallen heroes of the revolution and greetings to our comrades across New Eden. As the Intergalactic Summit ends its service we wave goodbye to these forums and hope to see everyone on the other side. Long live the fighters! Join the Revolution!

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